Should you find any such deaths then I'll enjoy that entirely.
Well then let this lesson be ignored. Though if it is who I feel it is I will not take back my words about her will. And I will say I was quite clear about why I wanted to bite her. I wanted to taste the drugs and intoxication in the food of the cave which she'd been consuming. I don't require feeding to live anymore after all. If she didn't wish for it then she could have said no. But apparently she must have the permission of others to do anything which really only proves my point.
[It's vampires like this that make Jonathan truly despise the race. No doubt this 'Lestat' will fit in well with the likes of Ignacio.]
That she abides by a contract that she agreed to, in spite of your barbs, would seem to indicate a strong will to me, sir. Just one that does not suit your purposes or fancy. She is a rebel in her own ways, ones that do not involve betraying the trust of someone she cares for.
Yet she cannot fight her own battles and you must come in her stead about this insult. No, I stand by what I say. If you dislike that then teach your little nurse to fight her own battles rather than having you tell her how to and fighting them for her.
She made no requests of me, sir. I came of my own accord as a colleague, and as a man who has dealt with far too many creatures like you.
['I've been watching you all these nights in Whitechapel pretending you're still a doctor,' Mary's voice is cold and cruel in his memory. 'You believe you're just fighting a disease. But it's you, the disease, Jonathan. You!' And every vampire like him.]
I can see by your messages that manners mean little to you, so I will simply say good evening. Perhaps you'll be taught a few lessons about such things here. I think it might do you well.
Whether by request of her or no, she couldn't come to defend her own honor and you even stated that you told her she can't let vampires bite her any longer. No will outside of others.
[Now he's just being extra rude out of spite. Because how dare you presume to know him when clearly you know nothing about him.]
Oh please. Obviously you have no idea who I am. I don't learn lessons. I go out into the universe doing terrible things that end up making me suffer before I do them all again. Ask Armand. He certainly could happily confirm this notion to you. If someone cannot handle me telling them the truth as I see it then that is their own problem.
I said I advised her. Do not twist my words for your petty fit of rage, sir. Seeking the counsel of a friend when dealing with uncertain waters shows wisdom. Something you would seem to lack, by your own admission of repeating your mistakes again and again. Is it jealousy that drives you, then? That she has grace, a backbone, and wisdom.
And your opinions are not the truth. Truth is something objective, based in fact, not something 'as you see it.'
Jealousy? She's a simple girl who lets others decide things for her and decided on her own that I was starving without asking questions about it. I would hardly say she has grace, backbone, or wisdom. My own stupid Louis outshines her in these aspects by some miracle.
And truth will always be as we see it. For example, you have these substitutes for vampires. Because you know they will be good for all of us. Yet can you be sure that my body can survive on them? You have done no experiments to know what my body requires to survive, what can kill it. Don't talk about your facts when you won't even gather them and only listen to half a story. If you cared about them then you would have asked what took place on my side before pathetically lecturing me.
She is a bright and conscientious young woman with a gentle heart that you abused.
And once more you twist my words and my intent. I said you may sample our substitutes to see if they will work. How is that not gathering the facts? I do not presume they will. I make the offer in good faith. Refuse if you will, but do not turn the facts to suit whatever narrative you've dreamed up for yourself.
If you wish to tell your side of this tale, then tell it. By my nurse's account, you tricked her, then grew cruel and hateful when she refused you relations without the consent of her partner.
Well I won't. I won't degrade myself because you seem to feel a vampire shouldn't do what a vampire was created to do in the first place.
Your nurse is an idiot. I came forward an introduced myself and informed her that I cannot eat food but wished to taste the intoxication of the food. I also clearly stated that I could only do that by drinking the blood of someone with the intoxication inside them. I even told her I only wanted but a taste. She was welcome to refuse but when she said that it was something that was the will of her Dominate I asked about it. Eventually, without coaxing from me, she chose to let me bite her. Honestly I was quite surprised by the matter and I assured her I would make it pleasant for her.
She became aroused by the bite and I offered to sleep with her. From there she went on again about her Dominant not allowing her to sleep with other people. She made no mention of caring about this person in the slightest and instead made it seem as though she had no will outside of that person's. I grew tired of most of the conversation being about what the Dominant's opinion was rather than her own. It was boring and pathetic and I informed her of this. Then I left.
Created. So you follow the will of your maker? Or do you mean to say you are simply a slave to your instincts? Man has evolved to hunt and kill in packs. And yet, we manage to live beyond our instincts, create things ourselves, master our hunger to eat all sorts of things.
[Reading through the man's account, he can't entirely discount the potential veracity of it. He does not doubt Lucy's word, but he can see how her tender heart might lead her to make assumptions and depending on how Lestat worded things... she might not have realized what he was trying to say.]
And it would seem that you have very poor communication skills. Did you ensure she understood what you were telling her before you drank? Or did you simply assume? She is a gentlelady, a queen in her own world and time. I expect such an offer would have flustered her, and she may not have expressed as carefully as she might her argument for refusing.
The one who made me threw himself into the fire the night he changed me. I have learned all that I know on my own. I take pleasure in the bite and the hunt. Vampire are not mankind. They are vampire.
I don't see why I should bother with defending myself. You seem to hate vampire on principle without a care about whether they are right in the situation or not. Least that is the impression you give me as you hound me with accusatory questions that go out of their way to defend her supposed honor. If she cannot speak for herself then she is a poor queen. I was clear with my intent and it is her own damned fault for not asking for clarification before making assumptions.
And you are not above us simply because you are mankind. You do not get to dictate how we live our lives.
She was no victim. If she were that then she would be dead. Given that she is pure of heart, she would never be that to begin with since I hunt exclusively among the sinner of the world.
I have not been a human for six months, sir. I think I am particularly qualified to dictate how you might live your life while you are here.
[After six months, he is very clearly an expert in all things vampire.]
It is good to know you do not kill the innocent, at least. I will hold you to that. But your mercurial temper still could use adjustment. As could your communication skills.
Oh God. You're one of them. A vampire hating vampire. Suddenly everything makes sense. It's no wonder this entire conversation has been a tiresome effort.
You're a child. An infant. You're so wrapped up in your humanity you refuse to see the bigger picture. You can discuss what I have and have not done wrong after you have matured.
You are not human anymore. You don't have humanity now. It's a childish notion you cling to because you're too frightened to embrace what you are now. Also, for the record, I'm much older than you. You're an infant.
[He really should not have told this man he's a vampire. He's not addressing Lestat calling him an infant and a child again. It's only going to encourage his needling on that point.]
Humanity is a metaphysical concept, it hardly vanishes simply because one's species changes. It has diminished in you, but you say you only hunt sinners. What would be the reason for that limit save some vestige of your own humanity?
They're more interesting. A challenge. To see them move through hunting others without ever realizing there is someone more powerful hunting them. It's a thrill unlike any other. The moment I hold them in my arms as I take that bite I feel my heart pound and it becomes one of the erotic times of my life.
So, no. I'm not attempting to save myself. I'm a monster and a devil.
[On the one hand, it's rare for Jonathan to encounter vampires here who acknowledge that they are monstrous creatures. On the other, Lestat is vexing beyond belief.]
I cannot tell if you are self-loathing, to call yourself such things, truly evil, or attempting to needle me for your own amusement, sir. Whatever the case, I believe this conversation is at an end. Good night.
Self-loathing? Not at all. I take pride in being the monster that I am. I love hearing others tell me how awful I am. The sooner you learn to embrace what you are the better. Enjoy your self-loathing though. I'm sure it keeps you warm during the day.
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Well then let this lesson be ignored. Though if it is who I feel it is I will not take back my words about her will. And I will say I was quite clear about why I wanted to bite her. I wanted to taste the drugs and intoxication in the food of the cave which she'd been consuming. I don't require feeding to live anymore after all. If she didn't wish for it then she could have said no. But apparently she must have the permission of others to do anything which really only proves my point.
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That she abides by a contract that she agreed to, in spite of your barbs, would seem to indicate a strong will to me, sir. Just one that does not suit your purposes or fancy. She is a rebel in her own ways, ones that do not involve betraying the trust of someone she cares for.
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['I've been watching you all these nights in Whitechapel pretending you're still a doctor,' Mary's voice is cold and cruel in his memory. 'You believe you're just fighting a disease. But it's you, the disease, Jonathan. You!' And every vampire like him.]
I can see by your messages that manners mean little to you, so I will simply say good evening. Perhaps you'll be taught a few lessons about such things here. I think it might do you well.
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[Now he's just being extra rude out of spite. Because how dare you presume to know him when clearly you know nothing about him.]
Oh please. Obviously you have no idea who I am. I don't learn lessons. I go out into the universe doing terrible things that end up making me suffer before I do them all again. Ask Armand. He certainly could happily confirm this notion to you. If someone cannot handle me telling them the truth as I see it then that is their own problem.
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And your opinions are not the truth. Truth is something objective, based in fact, not something 'as you see it.'
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And truth will always be as we see it. For example, you have these substitutes for vampires. Because you know they will be good for all of us. Yet can you be sure that my body can survive on them? You have done no experiments to know what my body requires to survive, what can kill it. Don't talk about your facts when you won't even gather them and only listen to half a story. If you cared about them then you would have asked what took place on my side before pathetically lecturing me.
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And once more you twist my words and my intent. I said you may sample our substitutes to see if they will work. How is that not gathering the facts? I do not presume they will. I make the offer in good faith. Refuse if you will, but do not turn the facts to suit whatever narrative you've dreamed up for yourself.
If you wish to tell your side of this tale, then tell it. By my nurse's account, you tricked her, then grew cruel and hateful when she refused you relations without the consent of her partner.
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Your nurse is an idiot. I came forward an introduced myself and informed her that I cannot eat food but wished to taste the intoxication of the food. I also clearly stated that I could only do that by drinking the blood of someone with the intoxication inside them. I even told her I only wanted but a taste. She was welcome to refuse but when she said that it was something that was the will of her Dominate I asked about it. Eventually, without coaxing from me, she chose to let me bite her. Honestly I was quite surprised by the matter and I assured her I would make it pleasant for her.
She became aroused by the bite and I offered to sleep with her. From there she went on again about her Dominant not allowing her to sleep with other people. She made no mention of caring about this person in the slightest and instead made it seem as though she had no will outside of that person's. I grew tired of most of the conversation being about what the Dominant's opinion was rather than her own. It was boring and pathetic and I informed her of this. Then I left.
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[Reading through the man's account, he can't entirely discount the potential veracity of it. He does not doubt Lucy's word, but he can see how her tender heart might lead her to make assumptions and depending on how Lestat worded things... she might not have realized what he was trying to say.]
And it would seem that you have very poor communication skills. Did you ensure she understood what you were telling her before you drank? Or did you simply assume? She is a gentlelady, a queen in her own world and time. I expect such an offer would have flustered her, and she may not have expressed as carefully as she might her argument for refusing.
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I don't see why I should bother with defending myself. You seem to hate vampire on principle without a care about whether they are right in the situation or not. Least that is the impression you give me as you hound me with accusatory questions that go out of their way to defend her supposed honor. If she cannot speak for herself then she is a poor queen. I was clear with my intent and it is her own damned fault for not asking for clarification before making assumptions.
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You are not above mankind simply because you are a vampire.
What you are, is a creature of the night with extraordinary abilities. The burden is on you to be clear, not your victims.
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She was no victim. If she were that then she would be dead. Given that she is pure of heart, she would never be that to begin with since I hunt exclusively among the sinner of the world.
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[After six months, he is very clearly an expert in all things vampire.]
It is good to know you do not kill the innocent, at least. I will hold you to that. But your mercurial temper still could use adjustment. As could your communication skills.
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Oh God. You're one of them. A vampire hating vampire. Suddenly everything makes sense. It's no wonder this entire conversation has been a tiresome effort.
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I am 35-years-old. I'm hardly a child, however long you've lived for. Humanity is the bigger picture. It is what separates us from beasts.
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Humanity is a metaphysical concept, it hardly vanishes simply because one's species changes. It has diminished in you, but you say you only hunt sinners. What would be the reason for that limit save some vestige of your own humanity?
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So, no. I'm not attempting to save myself. I'm a monster and a devil.
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I cannot tell if you are self-loathing, to call yourself such things, truly evil, or attempting to needle me for your own amusement, sir. Whatever the case, I believe this conversation is at an end. Good night.
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